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		<title>Emergency Mode &#8211; Stop the Debt Snowball and Pile Up Cash</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the Dad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;By focusing on our finances regularly we were able to see an on-coming train and prepare for the safety and security of our family&#8230;&#8221; My cheese has been moved. Last week things at work took a huge shift; a majority of my colleagues signed union cards and filed their intent to vote on organized representation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">&#8220;By focusing on our finances regularly we were able to see an on-coming train and prepare for the safety and security of our family&#8230;&#8221;</div>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0091883768?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=climout-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0091883768">My cheese has been moved.</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=climout-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0091883768" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /></p>
<p>Last week things at work took a huge shift; a majority of my colleagues signed union cards and filed their intent to vote on organized representation with the National Labor Board.</p>
<p>I’m not going to debate the idea of union vs. non-union work here, but as a jack-of-all-trades whose position is impossible to classify, organizing is not in my favor at all. The two most likely outcomes I see are either a strict narrowing of my duties and a pay decrease of about 50% or an elimination of my position.<span id="more-1058"></span></p>
<p>The entire union process, as I understand it, can take 6 weeks to several months or even years to complete should it be voted in.  This means for us <strong>an undefined period of uncertainty followed by a potential large cut in pay</strong>.</p>
<p>The Wife and I sat and talked several times since the announcement and have decided to shift into emergency mode.  Our current, and final, <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/our-debts" target="_blank">debt stands at $13,000</a> and we were on-track to pay it off by the end of the year.  Instead, this month I sent in the <em>minimum</em> payment and put the rest (what would have been our “snowball” payment) into our savings or emergency fund.</p>
<p>Readers know we have a small, $1,000, emergency fund that has saved us and <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/05/emergency-fund-peace-of-mind-and-living-without-ac/">kept us going</a> for nearly 18 months of this journey to become debt free.  With the potential elimination of my position or reduction in pay we are going to boost that emergency fund up as high as we can until my employment is stable again.</p>
<p><strong>But what is stable? And how high is high?</strong></p>
<p>If the vote fails and things settle back to “normal” at work we will immediately pull everything but $1,000 out of savings again and throw it at the debt.  We will have lost barely any time and will pay just a couple hundred more dollars in interest.</p>
<p>If, on the other hand, my career ends up changing either by taking on a new role, changing companies or starting up an entirely new venture, then “stable” may be defined as simply regular and reliable paychecks we can count on again.</p>
<p>The Wife is willing to take less risk than I am so she leans toward 6 months of living expenses while I am okay with 3 months.  So, of course, we will compromise and do 6 months [sic].  We are in complete agreement on what to do if we hit that number and we still find ourselves in job-limbo: we will start throwing extra money at the debt again until either the debt is gone or work is stable.</p>
<p><strong>I am amazed how clear it becomes when working together with your spouse with both of your priorities in-sync.</strong>  It does not remove all fear from an uncertain situation, but it gives you control over the part of your world directly in front of you.  “The power to change the things I can.”  That alone puts the fear of change into perspective and puts logic and reason in charge instead of emotion.</p>
<p>What <a href="http://www.daveramsey.com/new/baby-steps/" target="_blank">this financial plan</a> has really created for us is a fantastic set of tools for communicating with each other and understanding each other’s needs.  By <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/08/developing-the-perfect-monthly-budget/" target="_blank">focusing on our finances regularly</a> we were able to see an on-coming train and prepare for the safety and security of our family with enough time to get through just fine.</p>
<p>Plus I have tremendous faith in The Wife as a woman, wife and mother, and she reciprocates that faith in me.  There is no doubt at our house that <em>something</em> will be killed and dragged home every day.</p>
<p>Time to go find my cheese.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Get Over It, Get Up and Go Garage Sale Shopping</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 20:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the Dad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;The discussions and lessons we got in return were worth a lot more&#8230;&#8221; The kids and I had such a ball the other day that I want to share it with you. Specifically with those of you who, like me, have never taken part in that great American past-time: garage sale-ing. Like it or not, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">&#8220;The discussions and lessons we got in return were worth a lot more&#8230;&#8221;</div>
<p>The kids and I had such a ball the other day that I want to share it with you.  Specifically with those of you who, like me, have never taken part in that great American past-time: garage sale-ing.</p>
<p><strong>Like it or not, the kids are along for this ride.</strong></p>
<p>The kids have been living the get-out-of-debt dream with us for almost a year and a half now.  They have adapted beautifully to our family’s new financial values.</p>
<p>They earn their own money each week and we coach them through saving, spending and giving.  Very rarely is there any drama or whining about buying something.  If you don’t have the money, you can’t buy it.  If mom and dad don’t have the money, they don’t buy it either.<span id="more-1047"></span></p>
<p>It makes sense, of course, to make the most of the spending money we do allocate ourselves.  The Wife watches for sales, we minimize the use of paper products and other disposables, and I brew my own beer, for example.  But there are dozen of other ways to stretch a dollar.</p>
<p><strong>I have never made the time to visit garage sales.</strong></p>
<p>For some reason I’ve never had an interest in going to garage sales.  We have held our own, but most of the people who show up aren’t very pleasant so it never occurs to me to go out and be one of them.</p>
<p>Last weekend, however, with nary a nickel in the budget the kids and I really needed to get out of the house.  They had a few dollars in their <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0963571222?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=climout-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0963571222">spend envelopes</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=climout-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0963571222" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> so I threw them in the car and we headed out looking for those hand-drawn poster boards in the nice end of town.</p>
<p>At each stop the kids got more excited about finding fun things for nearly nothing.  A doll for fifty cents, a toy for free (just because they’re so cute).  The kids learned quickly the price difference between new and used.</p>
<p>It was also a learning experience for me.  People were really pleased to see well-behaved kids with manners show up and walk around their stuff.  I didn’t buy anything, nor had I intended to, but when I do get around to replacing my tools I am definitely going to check yard sales first.</p>
<p><strong>Teachable moments popped up everywhere.</strong></p>
<p>In addition to getting past my own disinterest in looking at other people’s used junk, I got to see some interesting sides to the kids.  One wanted to buy something at every stop, the other held back until the end.</p>
<p>They also were forced to walk to up to strangers and talk prices as well as conduct transactions.  We learned about value and quality with more than one discussion about what will last and what won’t.</p>
<p>At the end of the day they spent about $2.50 each.  The best find?  A Baskin Robbins ice cream cake maker.  We got it home, washed it up and I made a standard ice cream base.  The kids then flavored it and sat there hand-cranking their new toy.  It worked great and we all ate the results.  Hours of entertainment for 50 cents.</p>
<p>I encourage you who have avoided it to brave the oddballs, stick a five in your pocket and head out early one Saturday morning.  The discussions and lessons we got in return were worth a lot more than that.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
<p>	mentioned in this post:</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/10/sowing-little-financial-seeds-at-bedtime/">Sowing little financial seeds at bedtime</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/02/our-first-budget-the-dad-sells-his-testicles/">Our first budget and the Dad sells his testicles</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2010/05/sum-sum-summertime/">Sum sum Summertime</a></li>
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		<title>[EBM] The Dance Recital</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Aug 2010 13:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the Dad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Perhaps I&#8217;m just feeling surprised and beat up as line-item after line-item shows up for this thing like a mechanic calling throughout the day to tell you he found another thing wrong with the car.&#8221; The Wife has taken dance classes since she was two and danced professionally into her twenties. I, on the other [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">&#8220;Perhaps I&#8217;m just feeling surprised and beat up as line-item after line-item shows up for this thing like a mechanic calling throughout the day to tell you he found another thing wrong with the car.&#8221;</div>
<p>The Wife has taken dance classes since she was two and danced professionally into her twenties.  I, on the other hand, had almost no paid hobbies growing up.  With those differences, it should probably be no surprise that we need an <strong>Emergency Budget Meeting</strong> about the kids&#8217; upcoming dance recital.</p>
<p>To The Wife it is expected that we budget for costumes and recital tickets and, hey, I&#8217;m cool with that.  My kids rocking a stage?  Awesome.  It&#8217;s all the other things that are starting to freak me out; maybe I need some perspective from other parents.<span id="more-1037"></span></p>
<h3>It&#8217;s not just costumes and tickets, honey.</h3>
<p>What caught me off guard at first was the <em>video</em>.  You can&#8217;t tape your kids yourself, but you are welcome to pay for the video the studio shoots for you.  I should have remembered this one, we ran into it two years ago.  I don&#8217;t mind paying for quality, but listen, they pan all over the place and you&#8217;re lucky if you can spot your own kids in that mess.</p>
<p>Next, <em>photos</em>. Two 5x7s of your little dancer and a group shot.  Hmm.  Can&#8217;t I just pull out our point-and-shoot for free?  Judging by the video policy, maybe not.</p>
<p>Commemorative <em>t-shirts!</em>  What the hell?  I know, I&#8217;m being a caveman here, but really?  The Wife (who I hope chimes in) says this is the way the studio raises money and she&#8217;s happy to support them.  My feeling is I support them every month when I pay the $35 per child tuition plus the annual sign up fee.</p>
<p>Lastly, <em>dinner</em>.  The Wife totally caved on this one and agreed to come home for a nice dinner instead of taking the family out after the recital.  I should probably do the cooking, I&#8217;m thinking, to make up for being a tightwad.</p>
<h3>I wanna blow $300 too.</h3>
<p>So there you have it.  Not counting the monthly tuition to class, this recital thing is going to dent the budget by about $300 and last night&#8217;s Emergency Budget Meeting remains unfinished.</p>
<p>Listen, I love my kids.  I adore them.  Perhaps I&#8217;m just feeling surprised and beat up as line-item after line-item shows up for this thing like a mechanic calling throughout the day to tell you he found another thing wrong with the car.</p>
<p>The great part of an EBM is that The Wife and I can communicate about this stuff.  Especially since any kind of money talk used to completely scare the poop out of her.  She&#8217;s ready and willing to bring this stuff up and talk about it openly; that&#8217;s what budgeting together does for a family.  Thanks, <a href="http://www.daveramsey.com" target="_blank">Dave Ramsey</a>.</p>
<p>And the truth is, I love watching her dance.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Living Accidentally &#8211; The Opportunity Cost of an Unintentional Life</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the Dad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Getting out of debt has readjusted so many priorities in our lives and this may be the next big one to change. How the Dad ended up with a ridiculous commute. Way back in 1996 a friend asked if I was interested in renting his house. The current renters were bailing on him and he [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">Getting out of debt has readjusted so many priorities in our lives and this may be the next big one to change. </div>
<h3>How the Dad ended up with a ridiculous commute.</h3>
<p>Way back in 1996 a friend asked if I was interested in renting his house.  The current renters were bailing on him and he knew I wasn’t happy with my living situation.</p>
<p>I was one of several roommates in a pretty small place about 20 miles from work. The thought of a whole house (with a yard!) to myself was very enticing. My own kitchen, a real garage, in a real neighborhood.</p>
<p><em>The catch? It was more than 60 miles from work.</em><span id="more-1032"></span></p>
<p>I remember thinking how crazy that sounded, but my friend suggested I try the drive; that it wasn’t that bad. It wasn’t, or so I convinced myself, and I moved in.  Not many people were making that commute and I could do it in about 50 minutes one-way.</p>
<p>One thing led to another and I purchased my first house. It was a few miles FURTHER out, larger, and in a nicer neighborhood. That was when The Wife and I met and got married. She moved out “to the country” with me and we commuted together as the years passed.</p>
<h3>The only constant is change, even way out in the country.</h3>
<p>Meanwhile more people moved out to the same suburb and the commute began changing.  What once took 50 minutes was now regularly 70 to 75 minutes. Housing prices were rising and the neighborhood was changing for the worse.</p>
<p>We sold the house near the peak of the market (not that we knew that) and bought another shortly after the birth of our first offspring. This house is even further away. More people moved to the area and the drive to work changed again.</p>
<p>Today my commute takes 90 minutes each way or 3 hours per day. The new house is worth nearly $100,000 less than what we owe on it in spite of putting nearly 40% down.</p>
<p>And so I find myself blinking and looking around asking, “What the hell am I doing?” Three hours each day in the car is not how I envisioned my life. Not my life as a husband, as a father, creatively, nor professionally. Yet there is no clean way out of it today. Jobs closer to home pay half what my current employer does and moving does not make sense with home values so low.</p>
<p>It’s a situation of my own making, but created by a series of haphazard and rationalized decisions. I think this is the same type of unintentional lifestyle that led us deeply into debt, but we may just have to wait this one out.</p>
<h3>Now that we’re here, what are our options?</h3>
<p>Thankfully we can pay our mortgage and make financial progress in spite of my drive, but I worry at times about the opportunity cost of 3 lost hours each day. Missed opportunities in my creativity, my marriage and my parenting.</p>
<p>I hear about people with 5 minute commutes and <em>I cannot even imagine what that would be like.</em></p>
<p>Getting out of debt has readjusted so many priorities in our lives and this may be the next big one to change. Thankfully when we are debt-free there will be another option to selling our house and moving closer to work: taking a lower-paying job closer to home.</p>
<p>Have you had success winning with your commute? Have you moved closer to work or quit a job to be closer to home?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
the Dad</p>
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		<title>Borrowing Money from Family &#8211; How to Save Money at the Cost of a Relationship</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should start by stating something obvious; no one wants us to be out of debt more than us. In fact I NEVER WANT TO SEE A CREDIT CARD AGAIN. I believe our perceptions of money, debt and even contentment (i.e.: happiness) have become so healthy as The Wife and I sear the lessons of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should start by stating something obvious; <em>no one wants us to be out of debt more than <strong>us</strong></em>.  In fact I NEVER WANT TO SEE A CREDIT CARD AGAIN.</p>
<p>I believe our perceptions of money, debt and even contentment (i.e.: happiness) have become so healthy as The Wife and I sear the lessons of becoming debt-free into our psyches.</p>
<p>All of our family and friends support our goal and some have even dug in and are applying the same principles that bring us such peace. But a recent offer from very kind, loving family members highlights one of the red flags we have come to watch for.<span id="more-848"></span></p>
<p>I’m not sure I ever mentioned interest rates when I first <a href=”http://www.climbingout.net/2009/03/a-change-of-plans-three-debts-i-should-have-told-you-about/”>tallied up our debts for you</a>, but they are high.  The cards run from 14% &#8211; 32%.  I suppose I should write “ran” as all but the last big one are paid off.</p>
<h3>Why I Don’t Care About Credit Card Interest Rates</h3>
<p>There was a time when I really cared about those big interest rates, but I haven’t in a long time.  When you crush your lifestyle and pay debt down <strong>interest rates just don’t matter</strong>.</p>
<p>Here’s a real example.  One of our cards had a balance of almost $7,000 and an APR of 32%.  We could have spent a lot of time worrying about such a malicious interest rate, yelling at people, surfing balances all over the place, but you know what we did instead?  We paid the freaking thing off!  And we did that in 12 months in our debt snowball.</p>
<p>32% of $7k is $2,240/year if we left the whole balance there.  But we snowballed it aggressively so realistically we’re talking about 32% on an average of 50% of $7k for a total of about $1,120 in interest paid on our highest APR.</p>
<h3>Why Borrowing Money from Family is Stupid</h3>
<p>Now back to the well-meaning offer from family.  With kind hearts we were offered a loan to pay off all our remaining debt at an interest rate of 7%.  At first glance this is wonderful, right?  32% vs. 7% ?  C’mon, no brainer, right?!</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>Here are the reasons we would never accept this loan (I mean, beside the fact that we will never borrow money again):</p>
<ul>
<li>we have learned that debt changes the relationship to the creditor</li>
<li>if an income-crisis were to occur, the debt gets paid <em>last</em> after the necessities</li>
<li>32% is a lot more motivating that 7%</li>
<li>7% of $7k is $490. Since we paid $1,120 in interest we are only talking about $630 and that’s hardly worth our relationship with anyone let alone a dear family member</li>
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<h3>Loaning Money to Family Could Have One Benefit</h3>
<p>I would also never consider loaning money to anyone again (that includes co-signing on a loan).</p>
<p>Can you imagine putting a loved-one in the position of having to choose buying food and paying their water bill over paying you?  No, thank you.</p>
<p>What about sitting down to a holiday dinner at your debtor&#8217;s and noticing the new drapes, computer, or silverware?  How would that make you feel about your loan?</p>
<p>The only real benefit to loaning money to anyone is to drive them away completely.  I guess if there were someone I never wanted to see again I would loan them $50.  That might be a cheap price to pay in some cases!</p>
<h3>How to Get Zero Interest On All Credit Cards</h3>
<p>The real way to no interest is to get out.  Get out of debt!  Run like a crazy person from those sharks.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/03/getting-fired-and-being-grateful/">Decide you are <em>done</em></a> and never borrow money again.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/08/developing-the-perfect-monthly-budget/">Live on a budget</a> beneath your means for the rest of your life.</li>
<li>Keep an <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/05/emergency-fund-peace-of-mind-and-living-without-ac/">emergency fund</a>.</li>
<li>Work like crazy, <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/02/the-garage-sale-and-the-emergency-fund/">sell all you can</a>, and pay everything off.</li>
</ul>
<p>Boom.  <em>Zero interest. </em> Every time.</p>
<h3>We are So Grateful for the Love of our Family</h3>
<p>It is with huge gratitude that we declined the loan.  We know it came from a position of love and a desire to help, but when you break down what can happen the risk far out weighs any minor APR benefit.</p>
<p>Don’t ever borrow from family, guys.  It just isn’t worth it.  Really.  And I recommend you never loan anyone you care about money either&#8230;</p>
<p>Unless, you know&#8230; you never want to see them again.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>You Never Know Until You Ask &#8211; Don&#8217;t Be Shy About Living Within Your Means</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">Being on a budget and working with cash has made things easier for me at the register.</div>
<p>Daughter A is finally agreeing to wear some other clothes besides the &#8220;zoo shirt&#8221; she&#8217;s been living in and fleecey pants. It could be the 100F+ temperatures we&#8217;ve been having, but whatever! It&#8217;s so nice to see her legs.</p>
<h3>A Surprise Shopping Trip</h3>
<p>So, the other day I got a $10 off coupon from Kohl&#8217;s, a local big-box department store. I decided that I would pitch in a couple of bucks and take the girls shopping and get a couple items of clothing as a treat. Something Summer-y. We spent over half an hour trying on different clothes: pajamas, dresses, shorts&#8230; I only pulled things  from the clearance rack to stay in the budget I had set for myself. We finally narrowed it down to four items that would only ask about $6 from my pocket. </p>
<p>As we stood at the register<span id="more-996"></span>, the girls put their items on the counter and I opened my wallet. Inside I found another Kohl&#8217;s coupon for $10 off dated June 2010. I jokingly asked the cashier if he would take that one too! He called his manager and he said YES! He rang up Daughter A&#8217;s clothes and then applied the coupon, FREE! She had picked out items that totaled less than $10. Then he rang up Daughter P&#8217;s clothes and applied the other coupon, FREE! She, too, had picked out an outfit that totaled less than $10. Holy smokes! We walked out of there with two new outfits for FREE!</p>
<h3>People probably want to help you win.</h3>
<p>Being on a budget and working with cash has made things easier for me at the register. Either I have the money or I don&#8217;t. <strong>Decisions are easier since there is no cushion.</strong> It is what it is. It has made me less shy about asking for help too. I have asked the cashier at the grocery store to help me put things back when I go over budget. I asked Kohl&#8217;s about an expired coupon. </p>
<p><strong>You never know until you ask. Stores want to keep you coming back.</strong> Even leaving with free clothes I now have a positive experience at Kohl&#8217;s and will likely go back. </p>
<p>Go ahead, just ask for the deal. You never know, they might say YES!</p>
<p>The Wife</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:34:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;When you stop writing I will know you&#8217;re finally enjoying yourself.&#8221; I was the kind of kid who got horribly homesick. I have no idea why, but I remember it being terrifying to spend the night away from home. Maybe it was because we moved so much when I was young (15 times by the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">&#8220;When you stop writing I will know you&#8217;re finally enjoying yourself.&#8221;</div>
<p>I was the kind of kid who got horribly homesick.  I have no idea why, but I remember it being terrifying to spend the night away from home.  Maybe it was because we moved so much when I was young<span id="more-889"></span> (15 times by the time I was twelve), or perhaps I was just a mommy&#8217;s boy, or I might have just been normal.</p>
<p>I must have been eight or nine years-old when The Tutu first sent me away to Summer camp for a week.  What a mess.  I must have written letters home every day.</p>
<p>She would encourage me to engage in all the activities and make friends, but it took time.</p>
<p>&#8220;When you stop writing I will know you&#8217;re finally enjoying yourself&#8221;, she said.</p>
<p>She was right and the letters eventually stopped.</p>
<p>So never fear if things have been a little quiet around here, dear readers.  Updates are in the works and things are good.  I actually have 5 posts in various states of completion, but am working so much I&#8217;ve been too pooped to finish any of them.</p>
<p>This morning in the shower I remembered that quote from The Tutu and thought it explained things nicely and wanted to share it with you.</p>
<p>More soon,<br />
the Dad</p>
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		<title>One Year, Two Baby Steps, Three Missed Snowballs</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DOMAIN RENEWAL NOTIFICATION: Your domain Climbingout.net is going to expire! Wow &#8212; already?! I can hardly believe it has been a year since we started on the road to financial peace. First, a thank you to all of you who follow our journey and offer encouragement. To those of you doing it with us, HIGH [...]]]></description>
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<p>Wow &#8212; already?!</p>
<p>I can hardly believe it has been a year since we started on the road to financial peace.  First, a thank you to all of you who follow our journey and offer encouragement.  To those of you doing it with us, HIGH FIVE!</p>
<p>So how are we doing?  It&#8217;s been 12 months since we started this journey and this blog.</p>
<p>For 12 months we have<span id="more-868"></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Lived on less than we make</li>
<li>Maintained a small emergency fund</li>
<li>Operated our finances on a budget</li>
<li>Borrowed NOTHING</li>
<li>Paid down our debt</li>
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<p>Looking at our <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/our-debts/">debt chart</a> we have paid down about 38% of our total debt or around $18,000.  If you’ve been following us for a while you know that’s around 20% shy of <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/11/the-good-and-the-bad-of-arbitrary-goals/">where I wanted us to be</a>.  Nonetheless, we are on our way to debt freedom.</p>
<p>I have some observations after a year of following Dave Ramsey’s advice; some surprise me.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Making a budget every month has become easy, but still takes about the same amount of time.</strong><br />
I mean, it&#8217;s downright SIMPLE now.  The mechanics of filling out the line items, adding in the unusual things for the month, chatting about it, and printing the final budget to hang on the fridge are second nature.  Still, it takes about an hour each month.
</li>
<li><strong>Emergency budget committee meetings still happen almost every month.</strong><br />
This one surprises me and maybe it&#8217;s because we&#8217;re getting complacent, but nearly every month we have to get together at least once to cover a screw-up or unexpected event.
</li>
<li><strong>Homemade bread is awesome.</strong><br />
The Wife is out of control in the kitchen.  Homemade meals every day.  Homemade bread, yogurt and granola.  She even made our own almond milk.
</li>
<li><strong>Kids&#8217; commissions need their own line item and can really add up.</strong><br />
Okay, listen to me. Don&#8217;t underestimate this one. It&#8217;s all great teaching the kids to be Dave Ramsey fanatics like us, but those commission payments can get pricey!  Budget them in.
</li>
<li><strong>It gets BORING.</strong><br />
Seriously.  The months when we can send two thousand dollars to our debt are awesome, but when it&#8217;s only three or four hundred for a couple months in a row I start to lose interest (pun not intended).</li>
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<p>This year I am down right antsy.  Antsy, I say!  I want out and I want out now.  The freelance work <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2010/01/dont-mind-the-smoke-its-just-the-2000-in-my-pocket-burning/">I picked up recently</a> is in high gear and should be done in about two weeks.  The pizza delivery work is surprisingly hard to come by, but applications are in.  The kids start full-time school in the Fall and The Wife should be able to double her hours.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a marathon, you say?  Not a sprint?  Well, staying the course for the long haul is really&#8230; long!  Nonetheless, it&#8217;s the only option.  Getting out of debt ain&#8217;t easy.  It&#8217;s just worth it.</p>
<p>Or so I hear.</p>
<p>Thanks again for sticking with us, everyone.<br />
the Dad</p>
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		<title>I&#8217;m Excited about 2010 &#8211; The Joy of Positive Momentum</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 22:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I feel like we spent 2009 pushing back on a huge boulder that is now rolling in earnest. If it were tangible, is this what momentum would feel like? In my soul 2010 already tastes like a great year. It’s hard to put my finger on why, but after starting 2009 at the bottom and [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">I feel like we spent 2009 pushing back on a huge boulder that is now rolling in earnest.</div>
<p>If it were tangible, is this what momentum would feel like?  In my soul 2010 already tastes like a great year.</p>
<p>It’s hard to put my finger on why, but after <a href=”http://www.climbingout.net/2009/02/looking-up-from-the-bottom-of-the-hole/”>starting 2009 at the bottom</a> and watching our lives <a href=”http://www.climbingout.net/2009/08/how-to-get-debt-free-month-6-of-the-journey/”>turn around</a>, 2010 seems to stretch ahead of us full of promise and I’m excited.<span id="more-815"></span></p>
<p>This year I want to connect with The Wife even more, be a better friend and colleague, and pay off debt.  Those are quite general goals, but the specifics are posts unto themselves.  Instead of elaborating, I want to pass on some of my inspiration.</p>
<p>Today I share with you three blog posts that helped get me in the mood to embrace this year.</p>
<h3>Don&#8217;t be an intolerant doofus</h3>
<p>First, from <i>One Writer’s World</i>: <a href=”http://elizabethengstrom.wordpress.com/2010/01/01/a-new-year-a-new-goal/” target=”_blank”>A New Year, A New Goal</a>.</p>
<div style="margin: 4px 20px 14px 20px; font-style:italic; font-size: 90%;">I want to see past all that smokescreen in myself and everyone else this year. I want to encourage the god within me to commune with the god within you. I want our angels to go out to lunch together and share a couple of laughs at our expense.</div>
<p>This really hit home with me as I found myself becoming less and less tolerant of others instead of more accepting.  Less tolerant of stupidity which really is just another way of saying <i>less tolerant of people who do not think and act the way I believe is right &#8212; or, don&#8217;t think and act like me.</i></p>
<p>I have made a conscious effort to allow myself to enjoy people’s views, statements and differences.  It has already made me not only happier, but a better friend, colleague and, perhaps, person.</p>
<h3>Go to bed with your wife even if it&#8217;s ridiculously early</h3>
<p>Rachel at <i>Small Notebook</i> hit home with something I’ve been struggling with since getting married: <a href=”http://smallnotebook.org/2010/01/11/night-owl-to-early-bird/” target=”_blank”>How a Night Owl Became an Early Bird and Liked It</a>.</p>
<div style="margin: 4px 20px 14px 20px; font-style:italic; font-size: 90%;">[At] ten o’clock I would get a second wind and want to start working on all of the things that I didn’t have time to do during the day. Going to bed at midnight was the norm for me for many, many years. Sometimes I stayed up later.</div>
<p>That is SO me.  The Wife has, more than once, berated me for not coming to bed with her for days or weeks while I stay up late working or, more often than not, working until 9:30 then needing to “wind down” with a 2-hour long movie.</p>
<p>Most recently she told me she wanted a husband, not a roommate.  Needless to say, I took Rachel’s post to heart.  It will be a tough (and some weeks, impossible) change, but I’ve had roommates before and never really liked ‘em.  Plus, The Wife is really hot.</p>
<h3>Debt is dumber than ever</h3>
<p>Lastly I thoroughly enjoyed <a href=”http://www.wisebread.com/how-debt-fools-people” target=”_blank”>How Debt Fools People</a> from <i>Phillip Brewer</i>.</p>
<div style="margin: 4px 20px 14px 20px; font-style:italic; font-size: 90%;">The reason debt fools people is that even when the cost of the debt is perfectly reasonable, the lost flexibility means any little problem can kick off a debt spiral.</div>
<p>I love his excellent succinct treatise which, at its core, speaks to the opportunity cost of taking on debt and the danger of not calculating risk when lured by a low monthly payment.</p>
<p>So today I am energized and excited.  I feel like we spent 2009 pushing back on a huge boulder that is now rolling in earnest.  It is moving with a force that is bumping into other aspects of our lives and its momentum is infectious.</p>
<p>Cheers, 2010, you don’t scare me.  In fact I couldn’t be happier to meet you.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Happy New Year&#8217;s Eve, Ten Years Ago</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What were you like 10 years ago? Isn’t it interesting how we attach significance to some numbers? Turning 40 is over the hill. $99 is a much better deal than $100. 5 miles over the speed limit is okay. As this decade ends today I find myself weighed down with the importance of looking back [...]]]></description>
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<p>Isn’t it interesting how we attach significance to some numbers?  Turning 40 is over the hill.  $99 is a much better deal than $100.  5 miles over the speed limit is okay.</p>
<p>As this decade ends today I find myself weighed down with the importance of looking back ten years at where I was, what I did and, maybe more importantly, what I didn’t know.</p>
<p>Certainly nothing makes this ten year span more important than any other, but what the heck.<span id="more-801"></span>  Let’s just decide to attach significance to it anyway, shall we?</p>
<p>Ten years ago I</p>
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<li>just bought my first house. 4br, 3b, 1,800ft2, $129,000</li>
<li>had known The Wife for 8 months</li>
<li>smoked</li>
<li>had never heard of intra-uterine insemination</li>
<li>had about $2,000 in consumer debt</li>
<li>worked in the exact same building &#038; job, but the company name was different</li>
<li>weighed 30 pounds less</li>
<li>had just brewed my first batch of beer &#8211; it was awful</li>
<li>hosted a New Year’s party at my new house with friends I will not see tonight. Most because they moved away, some because we are no longer friends.</li>
<li>drove a paid-for pickup with 60k miles</li>
<li>wish I had heard of Dave Ramsey</li>
</ul>
<p>Kind of interesting to look back.</p>
<p>What were you like 10 years ago?</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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