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		<title>Emergency Mode &#8211; Stop the Debt Snowball and Pile Up Cash</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 15:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the Dad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;By focusing on our finances regularly we were able to see an on-coming train and prepare for the safety and security of our family&#8230;&#8221; My cheese has been moved. Last week things at work took a huge shift; a majority of my colleagues signed union cards and filed their intent to vote on organized representation [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">&#8220;By focusing on our finances regularly we were able to see an on-coming train and prepare for the safety and security of our family&#8230;&#8221;</div>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0091883768?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=climout-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=0091883768">My cheese has been moved.</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=climout-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0091883768" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /></p>
<p>Last week things at work took a huge shift; a majority of my colleagues signed union cards and filed their intent to vote on organized representation with the National Labor Board.</p>
<p>I’m not going to debate the idea of union vs. non-union work here, but as a jack-of-all-trades whose position is impossible to classify, organizing is not in my favor at all. The two most likely outcomes I see are either a strict narrowing of my duties and a pay decrease of about 50% or an elimination of my position.<span id="more-1058"></span></p>
<p>The entire union process, as I understand it, can take 6 weeks to several months or even years to complete should it be voted in.  This means for us <strong>an undefined period of uncertainty followed by a potential large cut in pay</strong>.</p>
<p>The Wife and I sat and talked several times since the announcement and have decided to shift into emergency mode.  Our current, and final, <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/our-debts" target="_blank">debt stands at $13,000</a> and we were on-track to pay it off by the end of the year.  Instead, this month I sent in the <em>minimum</em> payment and put the rest (what would have been our “snowball” payment) into our savings or emergency fund.</p>
<p>Readers know we have a small, $1,000, emergency fund that has saved us and <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/05/emergency-fund-peace-of-mind-and-living-without-ac/">kept us going</a> for nearly 18 months of this journey to become debt free.  With the potential elimination of my position or reduction in pay we are going to boost that emergency fund up as high as we can until my employment is stable again.</p>
<p><strong>But what is stable? And how high is high?</strong></p>
<p>If the vote fails and things settle back to “normal” at work we will immediately pull everything but $1,000 out of savings again and throw it at the debt.  We will have lost barely any time and will pay just a couple hundred more dollars in interest.</p>
<p>If, on the other hand, my career ends up changing either by taking on a new role, changing companies or starting up an entirely new venture, then “stable” may be defined as simply regular and reliable paychecks we can count on again.</p>
<p>The Wife is willing to take less risk than I am so she leans toward 6 months of living expenses while I am okay with 3 months.  So, of course, we will compromise and do 6 months [sic].  We are in complete agreement on what to do if we hit that number and we still find ourselves in job-limbo: we will start throwing extra money at the debt again until either the debt is gone or work is stable.</p>
<p><strong>I am amazed how clear it becomes when working together with your spouse with both of your priorities in-sync.</strong>  It does not remove all fear from an uncertain situation, but it gives you control over the part of your world directly in front of you.  “The power to change the things I can.”  That alone puts the fear of change into perspective and puts logic and reason in charge instead of emotion.</p>
<p>What <a href="http://www.daveramsey.com/new/baby-steps/" target="_blank">this financial plan</a> has really created for us is a fantastic set of tools for communicating with each other and understanding each other’s needs.  By <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/08/developing-the-perfect-monthly-budget/" target="_blank">focusing on our finances regularly</a> we were able to see an on-coming train and prepare for the safety and security of our family with enough time to get through just fine.</p>
<p>Plus I have tremendous faith in The Wife as a woman, wife and mother, and she reciprocates that faith in me.  There is no doubt at our house that <em>something</em> will be killed and dragged home every day.</p>
<p>Time to go find my cheese.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Borrowing Money from Family &#8211; How to Save Money at the Cost of a Relationship</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 19:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should start by stating something obvious; no one wants us to be out of debt more than us. In fact I NEVER WANT TO SEE A CREDIT CARD AGAIN. I believe our perceptions of money, debt and even contentment (i.e.: happiness) have become so healthy as The Wife and I sear the lessons of [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should start by stating something obvious; <em>no one wants us to be out of debt more than <strong>us</strong></em>.  In fact I NEVER WANT TO SEE A CREDIT CARD AGAIN.</p>
<p>I believe our perceptions of money, debt and even contentment (i.e.: happiness) have become so healthy as The Wife and I sear the lessons of becoming debt-free into our psyches.</p>
<p>All of our family and friends support our goal and some have even dug in and are applying the same principles that bring us such peace. But a recent offer from very kind, loving family members highlights one of the red flags we have come to watch for.<span id="more-848"></span></p>
<p>I’m not sure I ever mentioned interest rates when I first <a href=”http://www.climbingout.net/2009/03/a-change-of-plans-three-debts-i-should-have-told-you-about/”>tallied up our debts for you</a>, but they are high.  The cards run from 14% &#8211; 32%.  I suppose I should write “ran” as all but the last big one are paid off.</p>
<h3>Why I Don’t Care About Credit Card Interest Rates</h3>
<p>There was a time when I really cared about those big interest rates, but I haven’t in a long time.  When you crush your lifestyle and pay debt down <strong>interest rates just don’t matter</strong>.</p>
<p>Here’s a real example.  One of our cards had a balance of almost $7,000 and an APR of 32%.  We could have spent a lot of time worrying about such a malicious interest rate, yelling at people, surfing balances all over the place, but you know what we did instead?  We paid the freaking thing off!  And we did that in 12 months in our debt snowball.</p>
<p>32% of $7k is $2,240/year if we left the whole balance there.  But we snowballed it aggressively so realistically we’re talking about 32% on an average of 50% of $7k for a total of about $1,120 in interest paid on our highest APR.</p>
<h3>Why Borrowing Money from Family is Stupid</h3>
<p>Now back to the well-meaning offer from family.  With kind hearts we were offered a loan to pay off all our remaining debt at an interest rate of 7%.  At first glance this is wonderful, right?  32% vs. 7% ?  C’mon, no brainer, right?!</p>
<p>Wrong.</p>
<p>Here are the reasons we would never accept this loan (I mean, beside the fact that we will never borrow money again):</p>
<ul>
<li>we have learned that debt changes the relationship to the creditor</li>
<li>if an income-crisis were to occur, the debt gets paid <em>last</em> after the necessities</li>
<li>32% is a lot more motivating that 7%</li>
<li>7% of $7k is $490. Since we paid $1,120 in interest we are only talking about $630 and that’s hardly worth our relationship with anyone let alone a dear family member</li>
</ul>
<h3>Loaning Money to Family Could Have One Benefit</h3>
<p>I would also never consider loaning money to anyone again (that includes co-signing on a loan).</p>
<p>Can you imagine putting a loved-one in the position of having to choose buying food and paying their water bill over paying you?  No, thank you.</p>
<p>What about sitting down to a holiday dinner at your debtor&#8217;s and noticing the new drapes, computer, or silverware?  How would that make you feel about your loan?</p>
<p>The only real benefit to loaning money to anyone is to drive them away completely.  I guess if there were someone I never wanted to see again I would loan them $50.  That might be a cheap price to pay in some cases!</p>
<h3>How to Get Zero Interest On All Credit Cards</h3>
<p>The real way to no interest is to get out.  Get out of debt!  Run like a crazy person from those sharks.</p>
<ul>
<li><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/03/getting-fired-and-being-grateful/">Decide you are <em>done</em></a> and never borrow money again.</li>
<li><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/08/developing-the-perfect-monthly-budget/">Live on a budget</a> beneath your means for the rest of your life.</li>
<li>Keep an <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/05/emergency-fund-peace-of-mind-and-living-without-ac/">emergency fund</a>.</li>
<li>Work like crazy, <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/02/the-garage-sale-and-the-emergency-fund/">sell all you can</a>, and pay everything off.</li>
</ul>
<p>Boom.  <em>Zero interest. </em> Every time.</p>
<h3>We are So Grateful for the Love of our Family</h3>
<p>It is with huge gratitude that we declined the loan.  We know it came from a position of love and a desire to help, but when you break down what can happen the risk far out weighs any minor APR benefit.</p>
<p>Don’t ever borrow from family, guys.  It just isn’t worth it.  Really.  And I recommend you never loan anyone you care about money either&#8230;</p>
<p>Unless, you know&#8230; you never want to see them again.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Goodbye Big Bank, Hello Local Credit Union &#8211; Thanks to Quicken Dropping Us</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 22:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>the Dad</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[if you too are thinking about ditching your big bank and finding a local bank with a soul, I encourage you to give it a try This post is an example of what happens when companies put customer service last and the customer realizes there are other choices after all. Everyone who engages with customers [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">if you too are thinking about ditching your big bank and finding a local bank with a soul, I encourage you to give it a try</div>
<p>This post is an example of what happens when companies put customer service last and the customer realizes there are other choices after all.  Everyone who engages with customers (which pretty much means everyone) should be reading <a href="http://sethgodin.typepad.com/" target="_blank">Seth Godin&#8217;s blog</a>.  That really is the sidebar to this post, but I think it&#8217;s so important I&#8217;m putting it right at the top.</p>
<p>I am consistently amazed by businesses that seem to go out of their way to make things more difficult for their clients.  Not just slow, awkward or boring but down right more difficult.<span id="more-901"></span></p>
<p>The folks at Intuit, makers of finance software Quicken, seemed to do just that this Spring.<br />
<strong>&#8220;We see you&#8217;ve been a longtime customer, but don&#8217;t upgrade to every new version we release; that just won&#8217;t do!&#8221;</strong></p>
<p>A couple of months ago we got a notice from Quicken, the software we keep track of our finances with, that Quicken 2007 would no longer be supported.  They release a new version every year or so with a $50 price tag, but we rarely see the need for new features.  The version we are using works great.</p>
<p>In addition Quicken directly connects with our bank, Wells Fargo (we pay Wells AND Intuit a small monthly fee for this ability).  Accounts are magically updated, transactions downloaded, and checks can be cut right from the software.  It all works quite well and I am quite entrenched in that method of paying bills and balancing accounts.</p>
<p>Until now.  The notice from Intuit says that although we will still be able to manually enter transactions, all online activity will be disabled until we buy Quicken 2010.  There is probably a good reason, like they have undated a security encryption protocol and Quicken 2007 can&#8217;t read it, but the end result is the same:<strong> &#8220;If you want to keep the functionality you originally paid for you are going to have to pay us again.&#8221;</strong></p>
<p><strong>That was just the push we needed to bail on our big bank and its big bank fees.</strong></p>
<p>So we made the plunge; one I had been putting off because it seemed too much hassle.  We closed all accounts at our mega bank and opened a checking and savings account at our local credit union.</p>
<p>You know, it was easier than I thought.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s now been two pay-periods since making the switch and I love it.   The credit union&#8217;s website is not as flashy and polished as the mega  bank&#8217;s, but with their free bill pay service we can do everything we  were able to out of Quicken.</p>
<p><strong>We still have all the functionality, but none of the fees or advertisements.</strong></p>
<p>Updating the check register in Quicken is now a two-step process (download the data, import into Quicken), but one I can live with.  Especially considering we now aren&#8217;t paying a monthly fee to both the bank and the software maker!  It probably takes an additional minute to balance the account&#8230; I can handle that.</p>
<p><strong>Online bill paying is just as easy as shooting a check out of Quicken.  In fact, it may be easier.</strong> I wasn&#8217;t sure I was going to like the online bill pay thing, but once I bought into the concept and really tried it for a billing cycle, I found I love it.  The credit union sends emails letting me know a new bill has arrived.  Then I check the budget to see when we are scheduled to make that payment and with one click I can pay it.  Very nice.</p>
<h3>One last account at the Mega-bank.</h3>
<p>All that&#8217;s left at Wells is a Visa card.  It&#8217;s our largest debt (currently about $15k) and will be the last one to be paid off.  Here is where <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/our-debts">our debts</a> stand as of this month.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/our-debts"><img class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-917" title="Our Debts April 2010" src="http://www.climbingout.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/Picture-2.png" alt="" width="562" height="388" /></a></p>
<p>So if you too are thinking about ditching your big bank and finding a local bank with a soul, I encourage you to give it a try!  Get on their website and test drive their service.  Go into their branch and do the same.</p>
<p>You may be blown away like we were and get reminded that banking and customer service can still go hand-in-hand after all.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Feb 2010 21:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DOMAIN RENEWAL NOTIFICATION: Your domain Climbingout.net is going to expire! Wow &#8212; already?! I can hardly believe it has been a year since we started on the road to financial peace. First, a thank you to all of you who follow our journey and offer encouragement. To those of you doing it with us, HIGH [...]]]></description>
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<p>Wow &#8212; already?!</p>
<p>I can hardly believe it has been a year since we started on the road to financial peace.  First, a thank you to all of you who follow our journey and offer encouragement.  To those of you doing it with us, HIGH FIVE!</p>
<p>So how are we doing?  It&#8217;s been 12 months since we started this journey and this blog.</p>
<p>For 12 months we have<span id="more-868"></span></p>
<ul>
<li>Lived on less than we make</li>
<li>Maintained a small emergency fund</li>
<li>Operated our finances on a budget</li>
<li>Borrowed NOTHING</li>
<li>Paid down our debt</li>
</ul>
<p>Looking at our <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/our-debts/">debt chart</a> we have paid down about 38% of our total debt or around $18,000.  If you’ve been following us for a while you know that’s around 20% shy of <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/11/the-good-and-the-bad-of-arbitrary-goals/">where I wanted us to be</a>.  Nonetheless, we are on our way to debt freedom.</p>
<p>I have some observations after a year of following Dave Ramsey’s advice; some surprise me.</p>
<ul>
<li><strong>Making a budget every month has become easy, but still takes about the same amount of time.</strong><br />
I mean, it&#8217;s downright SIMPLE now.  The mechanics of filling out the line items, adding in the unusual things for the month, chatting about it, and printing the final budget to hang on the fridge are second nature.  Still, it takes about an hour each month.
</li>
<li><strong>Emergency budget committee meetings still happen almost every month.</strong><br />
This one surprises me and maybe it&#8217;s because we&#8217;re getting complacent, but nearly every month we have to get together at least once to cover a screw-up or unexpected event.
</li>
<li><strong>Homemade bread is awesome.</strong><br />
The Wife is out of control in the kitchen.  Homemade meals every day.  Homemade bread, yogurt and granola.  She even made our own almond milk.
</li>
<li><strong>Kids&#8217; commissions need their own line item and can really add up.</strong><br />
Okay, listen to me. Don&#8217;t underestimate this one. It&#8217;s all great teaching the kids to be Dave Ramsey fanatics like us, but those commission payments can get pricey!  Budget them in.
</li>
<li><strong>It gets BORING.</strong><br />
Seriously.  The months when we can send two thousand dollars to our debt are awesome, but when it&#8217;s only three or four hundred for a couple months in a row I start to lose interest (pun not intended).</li>
</ul>
<p>This year I am down right antsy.  Antsy, I say!  I want out and I want out now.  The freelance work <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2010/01/dont-mind-the-smoke-its-just-the-2000-in-my-pocket-burning/">I picked up recently</a> is in high gear and should be done in about two weeks.  The pizza delivery work is surprisingly hard to come by, but applications are in.  The kids start full-time school in the Fall and The Wife should be able to double her hours.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a marathon, you say?  Not a sprint?  Well, staying the course for the long haul is really&#8230; long!  Nonetheless, it&#8217;s the only option.  Getting out of debt ain&#8217;t easy.  It&#8217;s just worth it.</p>
<p>Or so I hear.</p>
<p>Thanks again for sticking with us, everyone.<br />
the Dad</p>
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		<title>Don&#8217;t Mind the Smoke, It&#8217;s Just the $2,000 in My Pocket Burning</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 22:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My emotional connection to money, loans, debt and the interplay with relationships has changed so drastically that I feel a certain discomfort with the situation This whole get-out-of-debt nonsense has really screwed me up, you know that? I mean, really. When was the last time someone handed you $2,000 and you said, “no, thanks”? Not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">My emotional connection to money, loans, debt and the interplay with relationships has changed so drastically that I feel a certain discomfort with the situation</div>
<p>This whole get-out-of-debt nonsense has really screwed me up, you know that?  I mean, really.  When was the last time someone handed you $2,000 and you said, “no, thanks”?</p>
<p>Not long ago <a href=”http://www.climbingout.net/2009/11/the-good-and-the-bad-of-arbitrary-goals/”>I mentioned</a> some freelance work coming up.  It’s a fun, challenging project, but one for which there has been little time lately.</p>
<p>It is for a dear friend and is not on a strict deadline.  Nonetheless, I want to get it done sooner rather than later.  I am shooting for the end of February.  It should net around $3,000 toward our debt and I look forward to making that payment.<span id="more-844"></span></p>
<p>But the bulk of the work remains to be done.  <em>Like, 90% of it.</em>  So, although I have been keeping track of my hours we are in Happy Meal land on the balance sheet, you know what I’m saying?</p>
<p>Imagine my surprise when my friend hands me $2,000 a couple weeks ago.</p>
<p>“I need the expenses for 2009.”</p>
<p>Whoa.  But, dude, I don’t borrow money.</p>
<p>“You’re not borrowing money, it&#8217;s for the project.”</p>
<p>Yeah, but it kinda feels like a loan, you know?  So we put it aside it its own account where it sits untouched until the job is done.  In fact, it will be the start of moving our finances to a new bank, but that&#8217;s another post that has nothing to do with this loan / pre-payment / friendship-risker.</p>
<p>I am trying to decide if it has taken on a weird connotation now; a strange specter of debt.  I understand that it was business money that does not affect my friend in anyway, but <em>my</em> emotional connection to money, loans, debt and the interplay with relationships has changed so drastically that I feel a certain discomfort with the situation.</p>
<p>That is leading to lots of clear communication with my friend that, in the worst case, will end in me simply handing his cash back.  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;m handling it right, but that will just make me get the project done even quicker.  I wonder what you all think of it.</p>
<p>Plus the hole in my pocket is starting to stink.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Let Me Get this Straight Razor</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 04:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Several months ago we hit that frustratingly expensive time in a man&#8217;s hygenic cycle: it was time to buy razor blades. Ugh. I&#8217;ve been using Gillette Fusion blades since they came out and the Mach 3s before that. Why? Because they sent me a free handle, unsolicited, when they first produced the dang things. I [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/merkur.jpg"><img src="http://www.climbingout.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/merkur-150x150.jpg" alt="" title="merkur" width="194" height="150" style="float: right" /></a>Several months ago we hit that frustratingly expensive time in a man&#8217;s hygenic cycle: it was time to buy razor blades.  Ugh.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been using Gillette Fusion blades since they came out and the Mach 3s before that.  Why?  Because they sent me a free handle, unsolicited, when they first produced the dang things.  </p>
<p>I think they came with one or two cartridges too.  However, at $25 per refill package they had become a painful slice of the weekly budget.  I was done.<span id="more-829"></span></p>
<p>A quick Google search led to a post on <a href="http://artofmanliness.com/2008/01/04/how-to-shave-like-your-grandpa/" target="_blank">the Art of Manliness</a> that gave me the guts to order a <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NL0T1G?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=climout-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=390957&#038;creativeASIN=B000NL0T1G" target="_blank">Merkur Razor</a><img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=climout-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=B000NL0T1G" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /> for $35 and 10 blades for 25 cents each.</p>
<p>Twenty-five cents! Let me tell you: I haven&#8217;t looked back since.</p>
<p>This morning as I was shaving I realized how much a wet shave with a safety razor is like <a href="http://www.daveramsey.com/new/baby-steps/" target="_blank">baby step 2</a>, getting out of debt.</p>
<p>Compared to the old Gillette, shaving with the Merkur <strong>is harder, takes longer, and requires paying attention</strong>.  Although second nature now, at first just learning to hold the thing was weird, getting the angle right to my face, getting used to the mechanics of changing the blade and working up a lather&#8230;</p>
<p>Like getting out of debt, it was a new way of operating.  Like living on a budget, paying cash and spending less than we make.</p>
<p>It has another thing in common with becoming debt-free.  <strong>It is worth it. </strong> Not just the cost savings (which are substantial), but the quality of shave.</p>
<p>Sometimes we stumble and need our emergency fund (like when I nicked my <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philtrum" target="_blank">philtrum</a> the other day), but at the end I expect everything will be&#8230;</p>
<p>wait for it&#8230;</p>
<p>smooth.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Credit Card Déjà Vu &#8211; Oh Yeah, That’s Why We Don&#8217;t Get Along</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 22:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My dislike for the credit industry is matched now only by my apathy for their business methodology Last night I realized that with a $48k debt snowball, like a hostage situation, Stockholm syndrome eventually sets in. We have become comfortable with our method, level of focus and debt-reduction. Yes, we have three debts left, but [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">My dislike for the credit industry is matched now only by my apathy for their business methodology</div>
<p>Last night I realized that with a $48k debt snowball, like a hostage situation, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome" target="_blank">Stockholm syndrome</a> eventually sets in.</p>
<p>We have become comfortable with our method, level of focus and debt-reduction. Yes, we have <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/our-debts">three debts left</a>, but we are making steady progress and have a plan.  Mechanically, the system has found a groove: income is earned, payments are made, debt goes down.</p>
<p>In a way, when you have gotten used to living on a budget and spending less than you make, you can buckle down, do the work and forget the “whys” of getting away from credit card companies.</p>
<p>Then they remind you.<span id="more-804"></span></p>
<p>Last night I received a statement for our largest debt. Usually I barely look at them, but the “minimum due” caught my eye right away.  It has been the same for ages, but had been raised quite a bit!</p>
<p>“They raised our rate when I closed the account to new charges!”, I thought.  Even though I specifically asked if closing the account would affect our rate at all.  Paging down the statement, sure enough, our APR had gone from 16% to 23%.  This is in addition to <a href=”http://www.climbingout.net/2009/10/they-must-be-catching-on-wells-fargo-tricks-instead-of-treats/”>the rate increase of last October</a> on our <a href=”http://www.climbingout.net/our-debts”>third largest debt</a>.</p>
<p>I took a breath, grabbed the phone and waited on hold ready to uncork on whoever answered.</p>
<p>Of course, it wasn’t worth my time in the end.  The rate increase was across the board, I was told, and had nothing to do with closing the account.  There was no opt-ing out or reversing it.  That’s just they way it is.  Although they did offer us a personal loan at 18% instead which I declined.</p>
<p>My dislike for the credit industry is matched now only by my apathy for their business methodology.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, with our plummeting FICO score in hand (I think we’re at 680 now, via: <a href=”http://www.creditkarma.com” target=”_blank”>creditkarma</a>), I will try to get a lower interest rate personal loan from our local credit union or regional bank and move our business there.</p>
<p>I’m not sure it will be worth it, but as it stands now 63% of the payment to that card will go to interest this month.  That change will extend our debt snowball by nearly four months and even a small fee would be worth paying to stay on track, I think.</p>
<p>Did I mention I applied at a Pizza joint to be a driver?  Seriously.  I’ll let you know how that goes.</p>
<p>In the mean time, thanks for the reminder, Wells Fargo.  I hate you too.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>A Debtless Christmas</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is ironic that I was the one bolstered by my kids’ easy acceptance&#8230; While I truly hope you all had as lovely a Christmas as I did, I cannot imagine that’s possible. My condolences. It has been a stunningly wonderful holiday season. And not only was it all done with cash, we even paid [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">It is ironic that I was the one bolstered by my kids’ easy acceptance&#8230;</div>
<p>While I truly hope you all had as lovely a Christmas as I did, I cannot imagine that’s possible.  My condolences.</p>
<p>It has been a stunningly wonderful holiday season.  And not only was it all done with cash, we even paid down another thousand dollars of our debt.</p>
<p>At The Wife’s insistence we had a Christmas sinking fund and spent it on the kids; $100 each.  That may not seem like much, but it was enough and generous grandparents from both sides of the aisle made for lots of love and plenty of presents to unwrap.<span id="more-796"></span></p>
<p>Ice-cold weather.  Lots of good food, candies and baked things.  All-day fires roaring in the fireplace.  My parents visiting to enjoy their grandkids’ fifth Christmas.  And me with all of last week off.</p>
<p>It was absolutely fantastic.</p>
<p>Yesterday was my thirty-eighth birthday.  Before getting on the road to work I opened a card left behind by my dear folks.  It had a generous cash gift; enough to take the whole family out for a fun lunch.  So The Wife and Kids drove into town and we had a fabulous lunch together.</p>
<p>In a restaurant.</p>
<p>And none of us work there!</p>
<p>These are good moments, people.</p>
<p>Remember <a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/03/turning-the-christmas-lights-off/">turning the Christmas lights off?</a>  Well, that played out too.  The kids totally got it.  We are getting out of debt and daddy sold the light controllers.  No fuss.  No complaints at all about the static lights I hung around the eves.</p>
<p>However, I was not prepared for the countless cars who stopped by only to leave disappointed.  Several caught me with the garage open, rolled down their windows and asked where the light show was.  I told the briefest version of our story I could.  They all said how our show had become a tradition for them and one fellow offered to donate cash.  It is ironic that I was the one bolstered by my kids’ easy acceptance when chatting with the crest fallen passers-by.</p>
<p>All of it, of course, strengthened and solidified our resolve to become debt-free. The best Christmas we’ve ever had full of joy, laughter and wonderful memories.  I wouldn’t change a thing.</p>
<p>I hope you feel the same and wish you all a wonderful New Year.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Sticking to the Plan &#8211; Straying from the Budget Meant Seven Overdrafts Today</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 22:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is always tomorrow. Another month. Another budget. Another chance to get it right. Oh. My. God. After ten months (TEN MONTHS!) of financial responsibility&#8230; no, financial PERFECTION, today I screwed the pooch. Actually, I screwed the pooch more than a week ago when I ignored our budget and decided things were going even better [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">There is always tomorrow.  Another month.  Another budget.  Another chance to get it right.</div>
<p>Oh. My. God.</p>
<p>After ten months (TEN MONTHS!) of financial responsibility&#8230; no, financial PERFECTION, today I screwed the pooch.</p>
<p>Actually, I screwed the pooch more than a week ago when I ignored our budget and decided things were going even better than I thought they were&#8230; and gave away the farm. <span id="more-766"></span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.climbingout.net/2009/10/i-give-up-october-you-win/">October was a rollercoaster of events</a> and by the time November rolled around I was really ready for a calm month and a nice fat snowball payment.  No little extras popped up and The Wife even brought home a fatter check that we had budgeted for.</p>
<p>So when the end of the month rolled around and I prepared to make our snowball payment, I found more than expected in our checking account.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, of course, it was a pretty good month, wasn&#8217;t it!&#8221;</p>
<p>So I sent nearly the whole thing off to our debt.  Um.  Enthusiastic, yes.  Smart?  Well, I left no buffer in our account and today we paid dearly for that.</p>
<p>Seven, count &#8216;em <em>seven</em>, items posted to our account before today&#8217;s paycheck went through.  Seven overdrafts.  Seven overdraft fees.</p>
<p>Overdraft fees.</p>
<p>We haven&#8217;t seen those in nearly a year.  Had I stuck to our original snowball amount we would have been fine. What does Dave Ramsey say?  &#8220;Children do what feels good.  Adults devise a plan and stick to it.&#8221;</p>
<p>I went with my emotion, my excitement in paying off debt, instead of analyzing a situation that had obviously changed.  For that we are paying dearly.  Overdrafts at Wells Fargo go for $35 each.</p>
<p>The Wife was brave enough to go to the bank, apologize for her idiot husband and get them to reverse some of the overdraft fees, but not all.  What a trooper.</p>
<p>There are some fundamental questions this debacle raises.  Where was the communication between The Wife and the Dad?  Why had the extra money not been addressed together in a budget committee meeting?  Were the seven items this morning expected and if not, why not?</p>
<p>We will sit down together this weekend, hold hands and answer those questions, shore up our financial defenses and I will keep my debt-paying in-check. Seeing a negative balance, <em>a negative balance</em>, in our checking account today triggers a visceral response that nearly brings me to tears.</p>
<p>Today, I stand before you a humbled man.  There is always tomorrow.  Another month.  Another budget.  Another chance to get it right.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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		<title>Are We Watching the Same Movie Here?</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 23:56:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never has it been so clear to me that personal finance is really personal. I have tried to find the tone for this post for a week now, but have to admit it is hard to land squarely on the side of happiness or condemnation. You know how some things just make you cock your [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class="selfquote">Never has it been so clear to me that personal finance is really personal.</div>
<p>I have tried to find the tone for this post for a week now, but have to admit it is hard to land squarely on the side of happiness or condemnation.</p>
<p>You know how some things just make you cock your head to the side in a gooey blend of disbelief, empathy and mild-confusion?  Not in a superior manner &#8212; instead, you want to be happy for someone, but can’t see around the enormous elephant in the room.<span id="more-752"></span></p>
<p>Friends of ours are in a similar, though slightly-closer-to-shore, financial boat.  They have about $10,000 of debt and drank the Dave Ramsey cool-aid along with us last Spring.  They didn’t hit as hard a bottom as we did, though, and their progress has been fairly spotty.  Well, just <em>different</em> from ours.</p>
<p>Nonetheless, they seem to be enjoying the improved communication and peace that comes from doing a written budget.  They are in their third month of Financial Peace University.</p>
<p>My head-cocking moment came a week ago when the husband sent me a text message with a picture of a brand-new $1,200 iMac.  I’m like, whaaat?</p>
<p>The computer they had at home had been “acting up” and all their stuff was on it and they needed to get to their budgeting spreadsheets and it had just become unusable&#8230;</p>
<p>They “needed to get to their budget&#8230;”</p>
<p>“No biggie, we didn’t finance it, we just used the money from our upcoming garage sale plus pulled some from our $1,000 emergency fund.”</p>
<p>Head-cock.</p>
<p>“This thing is amazing!  It’s the first state-of-the-art computer I’ve ever owned, you know, I’ve always had hand-me-downs and pieced together machines.  It’s nice to have something new.”</p>
<p>Nod.  Nod.</p>
<p>“Anyway, we’ll fill the emergency fund up with the money from the garage sale and we really had to do this.”</p>
<p>Never has it been so clear to me that personal finance is really personal.  These friends have a set of priorities and values and it would be ridiculous for me to judge them.</p>
<p>Still, I know we would not feel comfortable making the move they made, but the more I think about it the more I realize “this” is our finances and “that” is theirs.  It seems bizarre that we are ingesting the same material and message and have reached different conclusions.  Maybe we haven’t reached different conclusions, just different priorities.</p>
<p>Or maybe it’s a healthy dose of fear, uncertainty and doubt put to good use to get a new toy.</p>
<p>Either way they had their garage sale last weekend and we took a few things over to sell as well.  I think they took in about $600 and I’m happy for them.</p>
<p>I’m grateful for The Wife and our focus.  I don’t need to understand anyone else’s.</p>
<p>the Dad</p>
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